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At present I am very close to "completing" the Chronology of Evil timeline. I skipped past the iteration stage completely, so no beta version. 

However, I'd like to hear some opinions on the real world history elements I included in the original. Should I keep them, expand them, or scrap them? Right now I've scrapped most of them until I know people want them. My goal with them was to provide context to some of the villainous actions in the series, particularly that of the U.S. government. Unit 731 parallels Birkin, for example.

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I think history elements are interesting stuff, but should not be mixed with a Biohazard timeline, simply because "Bioverse" is not the real world, so things that did happen in real history may or may not have happened in the Bioverse. Think of it as a kind of parallel world, where technology is more advanced and Bush Jr and Obama were not POTUS.

It could be the subject of an editorial though, that would make an educational read for sure.

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That's true, although the "Bioverse" does include 9/11 and certain political happenings, such as treaties against biological warfare. It skirts reality quite a bit.

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I would keep the biological weapon treaties, at least.  The other stuff is a matter of taste, I think.

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I definitely prefer that the real-world events be included. It adds a sense of realism to the series.

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Yes, I agree with Chimera. The events directly relating to biological treaties etc. really adds to the sense of cloak and dagger that the US government in particular operate. Things are complicated a bit later down the biohazard timeline with the creation of countries and US presidents. Whilst islands have always been acceptable imo. Edonia, Kujuiji AZ, Eastern Slav Republic? That has never fitted with me, why not use existing countries??

So, yeah aside from 1998 onwards with the new stuff like the above, the real events work well.

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I join with colleagues above to include these informations. For me personally as I am interested in similar topics, it is informative thing. Although I think that the current Biohazard universe somehow doesn´t  interfere too much with real historical aspects of the development of chemical and biological warfare (at least until the mid-twentieth century and game events generally), and in particular that the game does not deal with this issue very much. But if nothing else, so I would keep it as an interesting excursion into this issue.

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I am very much for the inclusion of real world examples...it provides a bit of context for the series as a whole, showing the climate that Umbrella exists within and their reasoning for continuing development of bio-weapons.

Ultimately, unless a game arrives in the future that contradicts these events, there's little issue having them in there.

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Definately include the real life events. 

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I have not seen your specific timeline, but I will say that of all the timelines I've seen for the series they all seem to be missing the events from Degeneration and Damnation. I hope you include them in your timeline.

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The timeline we have predates the release of those entries.  It was only supposed to be an alpha version, because we knew those stories were coming, but it never got updated.

The rebirth of the site, whenever that is, seems like it would be a good opportunity.

For that matter, I might even rejigger parts of The Biology of Evil.  (Expect Part 4 in approximately 2025.)

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I've resumed work on the chronology and should hopefully have the next release out before Vendetta. Sooner rather than later assuming there are no setbacks.

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I've resumed work on the chronology and should hopefully have the next release out before Vendetta. Sooner rather than later assuming there are no setbacks.

It's a great timeline but if you're taking suggestions, I feel like the amount of information about real events is kind of doing a disservice to the timeline as being a Resident Evil series timeline.

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It's a great timeline but if you're taking suggestions, I feel like the amount of information about real events is kind of doing a disservice to the timeline as being a Resident Evil series timeline.

I too agree with this. I feel as though if any real life events are used in connection with the Storyline however, to go ahead and include that but in general just focus on the Events of Biohazard. I say this with all due respect of course. 

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One of the first things I did was drastically reduce the real world events listed, so now it's only things that are pertinent, like the Biological Weapons Convention and 9/11.

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Did 9/11 actually happen in the RE universe?

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Yeah.

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The United States has clearly not yet put an end to the long War on Terror after 9.11.

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If a real event isn't specifically described in the games as having gone differently than in real life, I've always considered that the series involves everything that's happened in real life history. Vendetta seems to be introducing its own whole new nine eleven which I feel like is a pretty brave thing for the series, especially considering it's Japanese.

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Huh. The more you know.

It's odd that it's never properly been brought up in game.

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Probably got quickly overshadowed by all the monsters. We don't know anything abou the U.S. government's policies in the series outside of colluding with and then fighting Umbrella (the precedent for this in real history is one of the reasons I still enjoy the intrigue of the series).

I wish they'd draw governments into the stories more, at least for background roles and file mentions. Degeneration and REV2's opening shows there are still a lot of corrupt politicians making bank off the back of merchants of death, and we already know Umbrella Co. had agents within the government so there's potential for that to be expanded upon.

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It also probably doesn't help that it's well... it's nine eleven so you're kind of threading on thin ice if you really want to dive into it in any piece of fiction, especially so for the Japanese who seem to go out of their way more to avoid offending anyone. Which is why the Vendetta trailer surprised me by not only not taking place in a fictional city this time but having a huge terrorist attack in New York.

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I don't know why, but I always just assumed the RE universe didn't suffer through 9/11. I always viewed the world as slowly diverging away from ours.

There's the obvious much older events in Africa, but around the 60s is when it really started to diverge, with obviously 1998 forever splintering it away from our events.

It's interesting to know that a large scale event like 9/11 happened, but yeah...I imagine it'd be overshadowed simply by the sheer number of people lost. 100,000 in RC, however many in Tall Oaks, Terragrigia, etc, etc.

But yes, corrupt politicians and government employees seem to be a mainstay of the backstory of RE, but only seem to be brought out of the woodwork when the series needs a good scapegoat for the main villain (Degeneration, for instance).

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Cannot wait to see your updated timeline Newsbot. It's been too long.